Trump vs Clinton

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ProDeo, Mar 16, 2016.

  1. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    That didn't particularly answer anything...
     
  2. hisleast

    hisleast FISHBEAT!

    Ok, assuming you're actually interested in knowing, there's a few good resources.
    I'd start with checking out popular liberal personalities and listen to them talk about the rift(s) on the left.

    So to start, spend some time observing the Sanders / Clinton tension from earlier in the year. My guess is if "liberals were liberals", that campaign would not have been as bitter as it was, nor would the bad blood on the left still be visible.

    Next, observe how liberals are reacting to the recent ascendance of college culture topics such as: trigger warnings, safe spaces, and cultural appropriation. You'll observe some on the left (such as The Rubin Report) fighting these concepts, and others (such as Sam Harris) simply re-aligning themselves as centrists.

    TL;DR? Start with The Rubin Report, where-in a liberal pretty much lays the smack down on where the Left is headed nearly every day.
     
  3. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    So, per the 2nd debate, Hillary Clinton will pursue Justices that will perpetuate abortion and so-called marriage equality.

    Donald Trump claims he will choose Judges that will defend the constitution.

    No a stretch to see who wins.

    Likely some reprobate.
     
  4. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    I've come to the conclusion that, no matter who wins, we're watching the slow agonizing death of the United States. It was a good "experiment" for a long time. Not so much anymore...
     
  5. hisleast

    hisleast FISHBEAT!

    From what little I've learned of this country, I can't put my finger on the "good old days" so many believe America has fallen from. From its first days up until the modern age, the USA has contended with things, many of which would horrify our modern sensibilities. In every phase of its life, it appears people were certain its existence was a hair's breadth from oblivion.
     
  6. teddyv

    teddyv The horse is in the barn. Staff Member

    Things change. Most people don't like that.
     
  7. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    There does seem to be an emergent, cynical, thug paradigm on the near horizon, as exemplified by the younger social crowd.

    Only makes sense, what with the senior role models
    dominating the popular scene these last few decades.
     
  8. Liquid Tension

    Liquid Tension No, it's NOT a fish!!!

    Grab America by the....................................
     
  9. פNIʞƎƎS

    פNIʞƎƎS Connoisseur of Memes Staff Member

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  10. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    Many people seem to hark back to the 50s-60s when life was so much better.

    It's certainly true that in recent years everything seems to be progressing in all the wrong directions - mixing and matching from a few emails, memes etc we have bigger houses but smaller families, we have more and are less satisfied, we work harder for more money that we can't spend because we have no free time, we buy things we don't need with money we don't have to impress people we don't know, we have ever-more friends on social networks but ever-less of an actual social life, and so on.

    I guess in many ways the 50s and 60s were pretty good. Assuming you weren't black. Or gay. Or disabled.
     
  11. Liquid Tension

    Liquid Tension No, it's NOT a fish!!!

    ;.;.
     
  12. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    That depends on if the "change" is good or bad. I don't particularly feel like a lot of the change lately in this country has been good change...
     
  13. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    I think if someone like Jeb Bush had made it thus far, he would he would be leading by double digits and anticipating a landslide.
     
  14. teddyv

    teddyv The horse is in the barn. Staff Member

    For whatever reason he certainly made no impression at all in the primaries.

    I've heard many people wondering why a lot of the stuff on Trump never came out during the primaries.
     
  15. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    Yeah, the initial conspiracy theories had Trump entering the race in order to insure Clinton's election.

    That's always had a certain ring to it, especially now.

    She will get a landslide, no doubt.

    Bush seemed stymied by Trump and unwilling to fight
     
  16. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    Of course she'll win. Anybody with eyes and a brain in their head knows this country has become very liberal. Clinton's a liberal. She wins. It's a no-brainer. I wonder, though, if the morons who will put her in office know what's coming down the pike when she takes over. I have a feeling she'll make Obama look like a right-wing conservative when she gets rolling. And my wallet is outright crying in pain and fear as I'm sure she'll find ways to take more of my money through taxes for her, ahem, "social programs" she's bound to come up with to help the "less fortunate among us." In other words, her being a liberal, she's about to financially rape us all, er, I mean she's going to "redistribute wealth." ::)
     
  17. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    That wasn't the point. In context of my post, liberalism isn't the point, either.
     
  18. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    What exactly was your point? You indicated Clinton will "win by a landslide." I agreed and merely indicated why she'll win by a landslide. It's because this country is liberal. She's a liberal. Why wouldn't she win? It doesn't even have anything to do with Trump's personality or controversy surrounding him. It could be Cruz or Johnson, or anybody else that people think is better than Trump, and it really wouldn't matter. The majority of the people in the U.S. are liberal now. The conservatives are now the minority in this country. It took about 30 years for it to happen, but it's here now...
     
  19. Athanasius

    Athanasius Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

    Your country isn't liberal, it's leftist, i.e., Marxist, i.e. communist.
     
  20. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    Well, whatever term you prefer, the bottom line is that it isn't conservative and we're all in for a hell of a ride when Clinton gets elected. I seriously wonder if some of the people voting for her are ignorant of just what they're going to help bring about for themselves. I would hope it's just ignorance and not an intentional thing. I mean, who would intentionally vote for somebody who is likely to tax the dog snot out of us all? Well, she won't tax the poor. Clinton claims she wants to go after the wealthy (again, at what dollar amount is somebody wealthy?) to make them pay their "fair share in taxes," but I do not believe that. I believe she'll go after what's left of the middle class, too. After all, you need to tax people so that you can then "redistribute wealth" to the "less fortunate among us." Yes, because I should be ok with having more of my money taken from me, who works, to give to others who don't work. I think Clinton is going to pick up where Obama left off. He was just the "warm up act."
     

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