Trump vs Clinton

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ProDeo, Mar 16, 2016.

  1. Athanasius

    Athanasius Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

    Probably because Hillary is accountable for Benghazi, an e-mail scandal that she would be prosecuted for if she wasn't Hillary, covering up rape / sexual assault allegations against her husband, etc. Trump is the guy you vote for because you're sick of all that; sick of the 'progressive' media agenda; sick of being told that you're cis straight white male (or female) scum, etc. Doesn't make him any less of a Biff, doesn't make him the right person to vote for, but it makes him not Hillary.

    And then there's Bernie who wants everyone to be equally poor in a socialist America. What an election...
     
  2. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    I hate to be the one that told everybody, "I told you so." No, no. That's not quite right. "I told you so." I predicted this several months back in a previous thread with the same title ProDeo used, "Trump vs. Clinton." Anyway, I'm not a Trump supporter, but, I'll take him over Clinton any day. Unfortunately, I don't think enough conservative people will vote to stop Hillary Clinton. They're too disenfranchised with politics. If elected, and I think she will be (we need the first woman President, right?), Hillary will continue, and increase, the socialist path for this country. We'll have all kinds of tax increases. More "social programs" needing to be paid for with, what else, taxpayer money. More chipping away at the Constitution. More political correctness foisted upon the culture. I'm honestly beginning to believe God is orchestrating all this to bring the United States to it's knees. We are SOOOOO screwed, folks...
     
  3. teddyv

    teddyv The horse is in the barn. Staff Member

    Trump can get with away with anything because as of right now, he's talking to the Republican side. Once we get in the general, then he's got to appeal to the moderates and the rest of the typical Republican voters who could care less about the primaries. He polls unfavourable in a lot of demographics. Plus I think a lot of Republicans might just choose not to vote this time round.
     
  4. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    I think I wouldn't put a bet down either directly.

    Populism is driving both Trump and Sanders, and it should scare Hillary to death.

    She needs the Obama coalition to win, and she is not as popular with the black voting block or the youth voting block as Obama.

    She won't get the "white racial guilt" vote that Obama received.

    This will be a race t the bottom, and the democratic party has not had to deal with a hard nosed attack from the right. McCain was Mr. Milquetoast, and Romney was St. Milquetoast.

    Trump may irritate every person in America, but he's going to be on Hillary like white on rice.

    I'm not sure the DNC new media is ready for it.
     
  5. ProDeo

    ProDeo What a day for a day dream

    Using your signature, I feel that it's no longer about the debate (de jure) but about the (best) debater (de facto).
     
  6. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    Nah....

    Cruz was the best debater. Hands down.

    This comes down to the anger of the American flyover country at corporate and political power brokers.
     
  7. ProDeo

    ProDeo What a day for a day dream

    In the debate she will bite in the dust due to Trump's (ahem) multicolored language use. People love that kind of stuff as his current position has proven. Hillary must develop a strategy to his bombastic debate techniques either americans may fall for this clown. Not that Hillary is a great story.
     
  8. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    When pushed, Hillary resorts to her basic form, which is a screecher.

    Think, in regard to the Benghazi hearing "What difference does it make SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEECH"


    That particular audible tone drives people nuts.
     
  9. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    Despite all the negative stuff we can say about Hillary Clinton (which I agree with), the scary truth is she probably will win. Not enough conservative people care about politics anymore. They're too jaded. She's going to coast to victory on the notion of electing the first woman President. That, and more young and liberal voters will turn out at the voting booth.
     
  10. Athanasius

    Athanasius Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

    He was also Canada's best chance at a Canadian President *shakes head*

    You have groups like YAF, and young conservatives like Ben Shapiro, who would beg to differ. There are also plenty of followers of Breitbart and similar. The problem, I think, is that conservatives have become concerned too late to make a difference - they simply aren't in the places that matter: not in education, not in the media, etc.

    Edith Wilson was also technically the first female President given her responsibilities after Woodrow's stroke.
     
  11. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    I think Trump will unleash the largest liberal voting bloc ever where he will likely fail to rally the conservatives, particularly the establishment, enough to put him over.


    Even where he wins debates, imo, it will scare liberals into the voting booth.


    Clinton is a weak performer and not well liked, but she carries the liberal agenda despite her many failures and shortcomings.


    I agree with RK; it will be a fight to the finish 8)
     
  12. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    Except that Hillary is not liberal enough, she has way too many ties to Wall Street, and the liberal crowd (writ large) with the BLM, Occupy/Anarchist and college kids are so enamored with the Bern that that won't support an old white woman en masse.

    Hillary isn't cool enough to bring out a large liberal vote.

    By the time the RNC and the SuperPACS get through with the CLinton Foundation ties to various overseas countries getting sweetheart deals while she was SOS, the truly ideological liberals will stay home.
     
  13. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    Yeah. I think the voting rally will come, however, as anti-Trump more than pro-Hillary. There will be no idealistic agenda this election - Trump might scare more voters than Romney did.

    They both scare the daylights out of me - it's a lose, lose situation :(
     
  14. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    I think that's true on both sides.

    The "establishment" on both sides will be voting against the other party, not for their own candidate.

    The "anyone but Trump" and "anyone but Hillary" votes will be the majority on both sides.
     
  15. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    There it is 8)
     
  16. Dani

    Dani You're probably fine.

    Yep, pretty much.

    Polarization at its finest.

    So basically more of the same.

    Meanwhile, nobody gives any care whatsoever what our Congress is doing. Because the President is the only decision maker in our country, evidently, and so that's the only vote that matters. 8)
     
  17. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    It's important to know who Massa be.
     
  18. Dani

    Dani You're probably fine.

    What's a monarchy where you get to elect your own king called?
     
  19. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    An obomanation.
     
  20. Dani

    Dani You're probably fine.

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