Preparation for election day and what follows

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Fenris, Oct 5, 2020.

  1. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    I found it interesting to see the process if the EC splits 269-269 and how Congress chooses the President and the Senate chooses the VP. I can only imagine the fighting over the 25th Amendment if we end up with a president from one party and a VP from the other. If that happens I think I'd buy shares in popcorn companies, as well as a good stock of ammo.
     
  2. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    I think every poll missed 2016 including 2018

    Professor Northrop was correct I think
     
  3. Liquid Tension

    Liquid Tension No, it's NOT a fish!!!

    I like presidents who don't get COVID.


    And I like presidents with a functioning brain that goes beyond grabbing 'em by..............well, you know. But that's just me.
     
  4. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    Covid 19 is surging in my state while defiant bumpkins flaunt their refusal to wear masks or social distance in honor of their hero.
    Hospitals are at 65% capacity, there is a shortage of senior flu serum, and every day brings a record-breaking rise in pandemic cases.
    This extended vacation in my home-state is drawing to a close, thankfully. No election results will change that.
     
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2020
  5. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    I found a very nice emergency field medical kit, including scapels, suture kits, and IV setups for less than $300
     
  6. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    I often wonder whether attempting an IV setup in the field is just an invitation to draw out suffering for even longer. If you know what you're doing, can maintain a suitably sterile environment (which seems unlikely in the field) and can maintain a suitable environment for the patient (which also seems unlikely, in an emergency evac situation) it might work. I suspect for me the answers to the above would be no, no and no, rendering the emergency medical kit little more than a liability.
     
  7. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    Wifey is retired RN... I'm very blessed in that regard
     
  8. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    That would be a definite advantage :)
     
  9. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    Yeah, except that you get that whole comparative injury thing going.

    Me: Honey, can you get me a towel? I just cut my foot all the way to the bone. i think I may bleed to death here in the garage, and I don't want to get my dying blood on the carpet in the den.
    Wifey: You big baby. It's only a flesh wound. Now I guess you'll want local anaethesia before they stitch it up.

    Me: Honey, can you get me some water? I think I'm running a fever.
    Wifey: You big baby. It's only 104 F.... get your own water and don't get your infectious typhoid near me. You stay in your office.

    Me: (After falling down 10 feet of a staircase and landing literally flat on my back). Uhmmmm.
    Friends on site (including 2 charismatic pastors who rush to my side and lay hands on me) Umms shakidna honda hyundia chevy baruch. We rebuke all pain and brokenesss and shainda honda....ad infinitim.
    Wifey: (Sitting on her butt on the ground next to me once she had donea quick physical assessment and saw that I wasn't paralyzed... about 2 seconds). Haaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa until she was crying and couldn't catch her breathe she was laughing so hard...

    Yeah, comparative physical distress, but nice to know there are indeed exceptional clinical skills around if necessary.
     
  10. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    Yeah, except that you get that whole comparative injury thing going.

    Me: Honey, can you get me a towel? I just cut my foot all the way to the bone. i think I may bleed to death here in the garage, and I don't want to get my dying blood on the carpet in the den.
    Wifey: You big baby. It's only a flesh wound. Now I guess you'll want local anaethesia before they stitch it up.

    Me: Honey, can you get me some water? I think I'm running a fever.
    Wifey: You big baby. It's only 104 F.... get your own water and don't get your infectious typhoid near me. You stay in your office.

    Me: (After falling down 10 feet of a staircase and landing literally flat on my back). Uhmmmm.
    Friends on site (including 2 charismatic pastors who rush to my side and lay hands on me) Umms shakidna honda hyundia chevy baruch. We rebuke all pain and brokenesss and shainda honda....ad infinitim.
    Wifey: (Sitting on her butt on the ground next to me once she had donea quick physical assessment and saw that I wasn't paralyzed... about 2 seconds). Haaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa until she was crying and couldn't catch her breathe she was laughing so hard...

    Yeah, comparative physical distress, but nice to know there are indeed exceptional clinical skills around if necessary.
     
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  11. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    Different ways of ministering.

    Some minister through waving their arms and chanting gibberish. Others minister through the more practical medium of laughter and mockery. Different strokes and all that....
     
  12. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    Yep, I think she was going for the "laughter doeth the heart good like a medicine" thing.

    :)o_O
     
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  13. Cloudwalker

    Cloudwalker The genuine, original, one and only Cloudwalker Staff Member

    My wife was a retired LPN and that was the start of us getting close. I rarely get sick but on the day in question I was so sick I couldn't even hold down water. I knew I needed help. The choices were to drive up to my sister, about 30 minutes, or go to my friend, eventually my wife, who was a retired nurse. That trip wes 5 minutes at most. A no brainer. So I ended up on her door step as sick as a dog. She brought me in and gave me something to drink saying "this will either settle things down, or bring it up. Either one us better than where you are." I said "you're right," and drank it down.
     
  14. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    Barrett confirmation hearing. Refreshing to hear these in-depth discussions - to a large degree, my confidence in the court is on the mend, regardless of my expert () opinions, sentiments.

    Except when interviewers start crying (like Michael Landon & crew).

    As an originalist, her argument against either Roe or same-sex marriage would (or should) be devastating.
     
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  15. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    True, someone who reads the law as it's written rather than as they think it should be written seems like an obvious candidate for the job. Unless, of course, you're trying to make sure people read the law as they think it should be (or you're unable to imagine someone reading it in any way other than how you think it should be).

    I can see at least some merit in the concern that the originalist viewpoint could be seen to regard women and non-whites as being of lesser value but it doesn't seem a huge leap to expect a woman to interpret what's written in a way that doesn't demand women remain barefoot and pregnant, chained to the kitchen sink. And from there it doesn't seem like a huge leap to interpret what is written through a lens that people are equal regardless of ethnicity, unless there's something in the original documentation that explicitly states that white people are special.
     
  16. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    She has demonstrated a razor sharp mind and perfect temperment. Roe will never be overturned, which is not news, but is has been modified by Casey and its progeny. An originalist is not going to abandon 50+ years of precedent and declare "no constitutional right to abortion." They just aren't gonig to be that activist. An originalist would, however, have no problem saying "a woman's right to privacy under the penumbra of Roe may be regulated by the states," and then let the states enact more and more restrictions. I suppose it is possible for an originalist to go so far as to say "this is an issue reserved to the states, and the feds are staying out of it", but seems unlikely.

    As confidence in the SCOTUS rises, I hope confidence in the Senate and House are decreasing.
     
  17. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    That's my take, but it's beyond my pay-grade
     
  18. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    I can see an originalist saying "while the US Constitution guarantees a right to privacy, including a woman's right to privacy concerning her reproductive choices, including the right to abort a pregnancy, under the US Constitution, that right may be limited in by the States in a manner that is not inconsistent with this ruling."

    Which says nothing and ensures years of litigation at the state level, with every time something is requested at the federal appeals court level or at SCOTUS (if coming after a state supreme court ruling), the response will always be "we leave it to the political bodies of the several states to determine what restrictions are reasonable and which do not create an undue burden."
     
  19. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    If some inspired Justice would challenge such sickening terms as "A woman's reproductive destiny," and numerous other phrases that imply a right to abort.
    They simply won't call it what it is - it would be foolish if they did. The right to get pregnant or not is lumped in with the so-called right to kill her fetus. Woman's rights.
    A right that has never been articulated in the constitution.
    I don't believe an original originalist would allow the case in a higher court.
    Of course, natural law played a heavier role in times past.
    I find privacy is another over-arching and pliable term.
     
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