I was just reading through a thread on the board where someone was chiding over a certain groups recent win of the right to marry. The author of the thread seemed quite upset at this win. I don't know, maybe I ought to place this thread in the Holy Rants section for RK to moderate in case it gets to be a hot subject. Anyway, ok, so the homosexuals or as the scriptures call them, sodomites, won this right to be married. Should that get Christians all in a tizzy? Well, it is a loss for Christian values, but it isn't something a Christian practices unless they are so backslid, they won't see forward. I don't believe that's possible for a Christian to practice homosexuality without being totally miserable. I've lead a few homosexuals to the Lord and from the point of them being saved, they stopped practicing this abomination. Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. But the facts are, according to the scriptures, the lost are doing what they do because it's natural to them just like a Natural Brute Beast does what it does... 2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth [person], a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned [them] with an overthrow, making [them] an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed [his] righteous soul from day to day with [their] unlawful deeds 9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: 10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous [are they], selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. 11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. 12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, [as] they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots [they are] and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; 14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: 15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam [the son] of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; (Nobody can accuse Peter of mincing words, now can they?) So my question probably is: can we place the same requirements on the lost who are acting according to their nature as a brute beast as we would a fellow Christian? If this nation were still a "Christian" nation, then yes.