Is raw veganism a sin?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Lucian Hodoboc, Nov 7, 2018.

  1. Considering the high importance that is given to bread, meat (including fish), dairy and honey in The Bible, do you think that modern-day "raw veganism" is a sin? Is adopting a raw vegan diet (either for health benefits or for ethical reasons) sinful?
     
  2. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    No. Paul is clear in 1 Corinthians 10 that what you eat has no spiritual impact, unless you are convinced that eating a particular food is a sin. Then, eating it would be a sin for you, but not necessarily for someone else.
     
  3. hisleast

    hisleast FISHBEAT!

    Figuring out how to live as a Christian is hard enough in this world. Why on EARTH would you want to add new sins to the list that aren't explicitly stated?
    Also, where would you draw the line? Bible doesn't tell me which leg I should put my pants on first. What if I've been sinning this whole time?
     
  4. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    If you've been putting them on LEFT leg first???!!!

    That explains a lot...

    Although, of course, when you are playing any kind of athletic event, you have to put the LEFT shoe on first, right?
     
  5. Cloudwalker

    Cloudwalker The genuine, original, one and only Cloudwalker Staff Member

    Actually I hang my pants on a chair and jump into them. :confused:
     
  6. teddyv

    teddyv The horse is in the barn. Staff Member

    What about which way the toilet paper roll goes on?
     
  7. TrustGzus

    TrustGzus What does this button do? Staff Member

    RK’s comments are what I’d say. Paul seems clear to me. It’s in a different chapter in my Bible than RK’s pi-in-facebut other than that I’m in total agreement.
     
  8. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    What importance are you referring to?

    Jesus talked of breaking bread but if someone is severely gluten intolerant I can't see him expecting them to suffer the consequences because they ate the exact same bread as anyone else. John the Baptist is recorded as eating wild honey and locusts but that doesn't mean anyone else has to eat those things. it's important to differentiate between what is descriptive and what is prescriptive. The fact Jesus, or John the Baptist, or Paul, or whoever else, did something doesn't automatically mean we all have to do that. If there's a specific requirement placed upon us to do something, or refrain from doing something, the text is usually pretty clear.

    Sometimes people approach things through a stance of prohibition in the absence of explicit permission. If something isn't mentioned as being allowed in the Bible then best avoid doing it. But that runs into all sorts of problems. The Bible doesn't talk about driving a car, or using the internet, or checking a book out of the library, or investing in certificates of deposit, so maybe we should avoid doing those things. Sooner or later it gets silly.

    I always figure if the Bible says I have to do something then I have to do it. If the Bible says I must not do something then I must not do it. If the Bible is silent then I can decide for myself whether to do it or not, and if God wants me to make that decision one way or another God is quite capable of making that clear to me. So whether I eat fish, drink a beer, wear green pants on a Thursday or whatever else, I can decide for myself.
     
  9. TrustGzus

    TrustGzus What does this button do? Staff Member

    Wow. Tango wears green pants on a Thursday.

    :eek:
     
  10. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    Apparently pie is sold in the shambles.
    So, here, have some pie. pi-in-face

    31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
     
  11. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    Pants! Wearing that which historically pertaineth to a woman.... tsk, tsk.
     
  12. TrustGzus

    TrustGzus What does this button do? Staff Member

    Ah! I assumed you were referring to chapter 8.
     
  13. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    That worketh also.
     
  14. Athanasius

    Athanasius Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

    No
     
  15. פNIʞƎƎS

    פNIʞƎƎS Connoisseur of Memes Staff Member

  16. Does that apply in the case of people who suffer from mental disorders in which they doubt almost everything (paranoia, OCD, bypolar disorder etc.)?
     
  17. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    Regardless of what your particular mental health status is, for certain things (that aren’t specifically listed as sins, or even something that could be deduced as being sin by looking at biblical principles), if you believe it to be sin (for you), then, it’s sin.
     
  18. Athanasius

    Athanasius Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

    Ask the opposite question: does it _not_ apply for someone who suffers from mental disorders? If we negate the answer is obviously no, and so the same is true of the original statement (where the answer is yes).

    But does an emphasis on sin help someone with a mental condition, where the avoidance of sin becomes an obsession, and suddenly everything is construed as sin of kind of another? That doesn't seem helpful to me. Sure, sin is important, but how culpable is someone with a mental disorder? That depends, but I'd say the disorder warrants the emphasis. So if you're someone who is paranoid with bipolar disorder and OCD, I'd say don't start by worrying about sin: Jesus has you covered.

    That's as much for me as it is for you.
     
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