Whatcha doin????

I would add that if it was within the Dem's legal right to pursue the legitimacy - or illegitimacy - of the Trump Presidency in light of purported interference, Russia, etc., then it's also within the Trump Presidencies legal right to investigate the anomalies Guiliani and others have been outlining (given that this is America's first substantial mail-in ballot election re: COVID). Whether these things would make a meaningful difference is at the end of the day is debatable, but for the media to make declarations of who won (when is that the media's job?), or for world leaders to congratulate Biden prior to Trump's concession or official, final-count defeat, is just as irresponsible and idiotic as Trump is accused of being. Except, you know, they're on the Left and 'reasonable' because... uh... they all rub each others' backs or something.

Especially when you have a ~70 million strong pro-Trump voter base who, legitimately or not, feel that the election is being stolen, or at a minimum, something fishy is going on. Trump is winning, counting stops, then mail-in ballots turn everything around? That's truly incredible, and I don't mean that sarcastically. It's incredible, but is it a fix? This is an opportunity for those overseeing the election process to be fully transparent, authoritative, and beyond reproach. Votes for Trump were tossed? At least one computer tallied votes for Biden instead of Trump? GOP observers were prevented from overseeing counts? At least one whistleblower is claiming a backdating scandal? It's not the time for the Left to rejoice. Let this be their first step towards reconciliation.

LOLOLOL. Who am I kidding. They'd never.

 

Resistance is futile.
We will all be assimilated.

Oh, and tragically it appears that all of the firearms I may have ever had were apparently lost in a recent catastrophic kayaking accident.

Alas!

 

I have zero issue with Trump's lawyers investigating problematic votes or events or whatever as well as the required judicial recounts. Several of those fishy issues were already addressed as far as I know, assuming were talking the same ones. I don't know about that whistleblower one yet although FactCheck indicates that the postmarking is irrelevant in the state of Michigan anyway.
It had been stated that mail-ins were going to be more likely from Dem supporters. This apparently is not without precedent in previous elections.

 

Story?

 

It is interesting to see the Democrats complaining about Russian interference in 2016 and now insisting it's some kind of affront to claim interference in 2020.

With no means to know whether claimed irregularities are true or not it's impossible to figure just what's going on out there. It seems like a long shot for Trump to win enough legal challenges to change the overall result but at the same time it seems premature for Biden to be claiming victory.

As an aside it's also interesting to see celebrations with lots of people packed together apparently don't count as superspreader events any more. Maybe Biden has vanquished the coronavirus already.

 

It was the same back then, too. In 2016 Trump was a conspiracy theorist for suggesting that if he lost it would be because of fraud. Trump won, and the Dems unironically launch a ~4-year investigation into election interference and fraud, whining the whole time - even now - about it. If Trump or the GOP do it it's on the level of Alex Jones or David Icke, but if the Dems do it, it's the most serious thing in the world. Trump is back to being the conspiracy theorist. Did any of the news networks over here even cover Guiliani's press conference yesterday? Can I Google it? Nope, and nope.

COVID is an extremely intelligent virus. It knows that when Trump supporters are together it should act as a superspreader, but when it's literally anyone else it's not a health concern.

Also, AOC is already starting to help heal America:

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324807776510595078

Where's the nearest field?

 

When the brown shirts come for my guns, that's m story.

Just practicing.

 

It is not disputed that the Wisconsin Electrion Commission sent out instructions to clerks to add signatures for witnesses and tomadd addresses so that ballots wouldn't be kicked out (mail ins)

Recount will show that as the instructions even said to do the additions in red ink!

We need another election, in person, ID, thumb in purple ink.

 

Remember that time Gore won?

 

We already knew the virus was remarkably intelligent. Intelligent enough to know whether a group of six people were from the same household or not. Intelligent enough to know if someone having a beer at the bar had also ordered food. Intelligent enough to stay away until the designated curfew before coming out roaring. Intelligent enough to infect people attending church but not people shopping at Wally World. Intelligent enough to know it could come out during a Memorial Day parade but not during a Black Lives Matter protest.

Ah yes, the government for all of the people, even the ones who voted the other way. Brought to you from the same person who disputes the account from moderate Democrats that terms like "defund the police" and "socialism" nearly cost them their seats. I wonder if that's the kind of healing Joe Biden had in mind.

 

I know of several people that received 2 mail in ballots

 

Interestingly an article I read featured some of Andrew Yang's comments, and he was saying that the Democrats needed to become more than the party of rich coastal elites who had no idea of how the average person lived, asking what had gone wrong when working class people disliked the party that allegedly represented their interests.

https://usatodaysun.com/andrew-yang...party-for-turning-into-a-urban-coastal-elite/

Seems like a much more useful commentary than AOC's insistence that the ultra progressive wing of the Democrat party represents what people across the nation want/

 

The impression I get is that there isn't so much concrete evidence of fraud as a suspicion that some areas might have anomalies. Whether the suspicions are based on fact or myth would obviously remain to be seen if things make it to court.

If reports are true that Republican observers weren't allowed within 20 feet of the count in some districts, that would raise a suspicion as to why. If there's any truth in the claim that the PA Supreme Court was outside its authority when it ruled ballots arriving after election day could still be counted, that may invalidate enough ballots to change the result (although the people who cast late-arriving ballots would have fair reason to be aggrieved if the PA Supreme Court were overruled after the fact). I read an article that claimed 120,000 ballots showed up (I forget which state this allegedly affected) after observers had gone home and they were counted without observers present. There are a few things like that - enough that I figure the courts will decide and I really can't be bothered to spend time trying to determine how much truth is in them - that lead me to wonder whether there is a valid collection of grievances that may sway the election.

Of course since Trump discouraged his supporters from voting by mail it's hardly surprising that mailed in ballots broadly favor Biden so it's also possible that the so-called "red mirage" is due to nothing more than Trump voters voting in person and Biden voters voting by mail.

 

I mean, we could ask:

- If we know of at least one computer misattributing votes, what's the likelihood that this has happened elsewhere? (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...an-sent-6000-trump-votes-to-biden/ar-BB1aMk7c)
- If we know that at least one postal worker is claiming they were told to backdate late votes, how many more postal workers might have been told the same? (https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1324174186366074880)
- If we know that pro-Trump votes in at least one location were discarded, then in how many more locations? (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/25/...rded-ballots-incorrectly-threw-out/index.html)
- If we know about the potential for dead voters voting, I mean, 'clerical errors', then could this happen in reality? (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/06/technology/false-dead-michigan-voter-claims.html)
- Not fraud, but what about the question of late votes? There's no reason Trump can't challenge these kinds of legal decisions (https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/justice-alito-orders-pennsylvania-officials-divide-late-ballots/)

We could also ask, 'what counts as "wide spread"'? The point here is: consider the Florida recount of 2000, where Gore would have won Florida - and the Presidency - by a few hundred votes. Do we need 'wide spread' election fraud, or just the right amount of manipulation in just the right places? But also, is it appropriate to expect 'proof', or would we start with evidence? There's certainly evidence of mistakes and errors, and at what point do these, if we encounter example after example after example, become more than an error, or a mistake?

I don't particularly care for Trump, but again, it's incredible - just incredible - how the election turned around after counting stopped, then resumed. To say that there's 'Zero proof' is just silly. The question is: what exactly do we have evidence - 'proof' - of?

Biden, the only rich white man with ties to Russia that the Left love.

 

Also funny how the Democrats who insisted the Russians hacked the election in 2016 now insist, totally straight-faced, that this election couldn't possibly have been hacked. In other words, if we lose it must have been outside interference but if we win then it's the will of the people.

Donald Trump may have serious narcissistic tendencies but I suspect he's not the only one.

 

Completely unrelated to this topic, but has anyone been watching "The Good Place"? A comedy, but with a lot of focus on morals and ethics as it takes place in an afterlife. It's essentially a fantasy world. I think Athanasius might enjoy it.

 

I still need to finish it off, but for the first ~3 seasons I found it to be excellent.

 

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