Jacob Wrestling

Discussion in 'Bible Chat' started by Fenris, Oct 18, 2018.

  1. Fenris

    Fenris Active Member

    Hi everyone. So as my first article here, I want to post an essay by Rabbi Jonathan Sacks. It's a deeper look at the episode where Jacob meets someone in the middle of the night, and contends until dawn. So without further ado:

     
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  2. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    Ah, most excellent.

    Thanks for sharing that, Fenris...wow

    And, in my mind, the physical injury to his hip... a permanent destruction of his hip in a day without corrective surgery... was a constant unchanging moment by moment reminder both of the fact that (a) he would never be Esau... he would never be that man of the field, that icon of power... but instead, (b) the same deformity that prevented his Esauness was a constant reminder that his identity was not in striving with man but instead was in striving with and holding on to God.

    And a promise of the possibility of grace for us all...

    All of us are born grasping heels of men, but God desires for each of us to exchange that carnal natural desire to seek the higher calling of striving with and holding fast to God, who we can see face to face.

    Fenris, that made my day. Thanks
     
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  3. Fenris

    Fenris Active Member

    Yes, I believe that was the message that all people of God are supposed to take away.

    Thanks! I enjoyed reading that essay so much that I couldn't help wanting to share it.
     
  4. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    I want to say this as well and I’m just going to say once

    Contrary to what some Christians may say, I don’t have to preach the gospel to you and any discussion that you here from me are not intended to be proselytizing or antagonistic. I don’t know any you to ever believe that I consider your faith or your life to be less than or not as good as mine

    I know without a shadow of a doubt that you and I both love the same God. That God is sovereign and more than capable of handling the relationship with each of us. And I trust Him

    You know the Gospel likely better than many self proclaimed Christians.

    Thank you for being a part of my life and for sharing your love for God with me
     
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  5. Fenris

    Fenris Active Member

    No worries, professor. We're all people of faith here. And we're all friends here. I enjoy sharing my time with you, and knowing that you feel the same way is a priceless gift.

    God bless.
     
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  6. פNIʞƎƎS

    פNIʞƎƎS Connoisseur of Memes Staff Member

    Wow. That was a long read. For me. But, I really enjoyed it. It gave me another POV I had never seen. Thanks for sharing this article Fenris. It is very informative and thought provoking.
     
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  7. Scooby_Snax

    Scooby_Snax Rut-Roh

    I didn't steal any birthright..but I do understand fighting with God to obtain a blessing and being afraid of not having blessed outcomes.
    Still waiting on the blessing as if I am trying to believe still it will transpire, maybe I missed it---and have been physically mentally and emotionally impaired (I assume) because of the struggle.
     
  8. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    I think we assume a great deal as a result of years of lousy preaching.

    Our "birthright"... our blessing, our inheritance, is Jesus. Regardless of how well things go for us in this life, this is but a vapor, and literally counts for nothing compared to the joy that is simply in being accepted by God.

    We are indeed strangers and pilgrims.
     
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  9. keck553

    keck553 New Member

    It gives me great comfort to know that God is sovereign.
     
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  10. ProDeo

    ProDeo What a day for a day dream

    Hey Keck!

    Welcome.
     
  11. keck553

    keck553 New Member

    Thank you!
     
  12. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    Keck in the houuuuuuussseeeee!
     

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