I think God most definitely uses secular counsels to help in many ways. I would not hesitate to use them or recommend them. I think the guilt feeling is somewhat normal tho to a degree for what is actually taking place in our soul. ( sanctification ) But we can all make the mistake of sucoming to an unhealthy “guilt” at times.
I have always been saddened by the lack of "treatment" in Christian circles, due to (I dunno, lack of reality or too much spirit "I" zation ) rather than the use of what God gave through people (by His Spirit) to help those in need. (I can say, scripture is clear, but we make our own interpretations to "cover" the hard stuff, and what is real is always hard it seems.) I appreciate your honest answer. I struggle with my faith in ways (but for me it is because I just want God to break through. I do not want to make hard decisions that leave me with nothing but Him and my own existence) I want comfort. I want normal God probably knows that what I deem normal would just never suit me. So I will put on the boots He gave me, even though I would prefer slippers.
In fact, I've been thinking about counselling again. Would I go for pastoral counselling? For anything relating to my Christian walk, but for psychological treatment? Not unless they were also a trained professional. My well being is too important to be left to some asinine fear of the 'secular world'.
Secular is sometimes a word some Christians use to describe something they just don't believe could be from God...it has to be wrong if not clearly black and white? Does or does not everything good (that which brings or is...healing, light, peace and truth) from Him?
Agree! Broken clocks are right twice a day. I would ( as a Christain ) have no issue with “secular” input to Godly postions. Yup, one would be error to ignore. (when looking at the macro picture) Romans 8:28 28 And we know that in all things God works for the good have been called according to his purpose.
Friend, I am not trying to re-convert you. You’ve made your decision and I have no problem with that. I am merely trying to understand your situation which I think I explained to you before. I can’t do that without asking questions. The experiences that you describe, are from a Christian perspective, just horrible and heartbreaking. It’s entirely normal for a Christian to be curious of such a story. I care about you as I do about everybody. If you were my neighbour or friend and talked like this I would have the very same types of conversations with you. You’re in a Christian chat room so you should expect to have such conversations happen. But have no fear I will not ask you anymore questions and we can carry-on. I apologize if I upset you. As you know, every Christian is called to spread and defend the Gospel so I come by this disposition if by nothing else, honestly. From where I sit based on what you said your eternal security is at grave risk and I would be doing you no favours by not talking about this, ( from my position ) but remember I didn’t come to you, you came to us. Peace.
One last thought and I say this with respect, some of the comments that you make here are or could be very detrimental to a new believer and or maybe a stumbling block to those of weaker faith I have a duty to my fellow Christians to do what I can do to show possible potential errors in logic or reasoning or an argument. We ( Christians ) have been called to destroy arguments that come up against the knowledge of God and I am compelled to do so. But I also have no problem not angering you or cause you for further stress so please accept my apology and I have enjoyed our discussions
Excuse me. I've been chatting with the people here for years. Long before I left the faith, and long before I never saw your name around. But there's a real easy fix. If anyone wants to get hold of me, teddy's got my email. I'm out.
I’m really sorry that you feel this way how about I make you a proposition, you stay I will go then everything can return to its rightful place
I already requested my account lockout. You do you. I don't need anyone to leave on my account. New people here are great. Just don't get it twisted why I was here.
I've locked/banned hisleast's account by his own request. Please note this as he will not be participating moving forward.