Coronavirus - tinfoil hat time :)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by tango, Apr 11, 2020.

  1. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    Reading assorted articles about possible endgames regarding this virus and letting imagination run free (which isn't necessarily a good thing but, you know...)

    What little talk there is of any form of endgame to the silliness either talks of a universal vaccine (12-18 months away, i.e. long enough that virtually the entire private sector would collapse) or some kind of testing for immunity, with people who are immune allowed to resume normal activities. I wonder how we would know that people were immune and therefore graciously granted permission by Nanny State to earn a living for themselves.

    Perhaps it might be some kind of mark? You know, on the right hand or the head? Just pondering....
     
  2. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    UV indelible barcode with date of testing and amount of iGm antibodies
     
  3. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    Needs to be something visible, so everyone can see who thinks for themself and who does not who has been tested and who has not.
     
  4. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    I'm thinking newly designed masks/headgear for the interim - lifting of shelter-in-place.
     
  5. teddyv

    teddyv The horse is in the barn. Staff Member

    Our province is now moving into what they are called "maintenance", i.e. the new cases has been stagnating, but still maintain most of the precautions but possibly lifting some. I would not expect much for at least another two weeks. Someone mentioned somewhere that the northern part of the province may have some restrictions lifted earlier since there have not been a lot of cases reported.
     
  6. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    I'm hearing expectations of peaks within the next couple of weeks. Hopefully we can move on from the extreme silliness by the end of the month. I fear the "cure" is already doing more damage than the virus, and if lockdowns continue much longer I fear an economic meltdown, social breakdown, a mental health crisis, and widespread ignoring of rules. Sooner or later it's easy to see businesses refusing to stay closed, simply because the owners still have bills to pay and can't realistically be expected to take all the losses associated with notionally running a business with no income at all for an open-ended period.
     
  7. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

  8. Athanasius

    Athanasius Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

    It's also good to keep in mind that the 'mark of the beast' is a particular mark for a particular reason. It's entirely possible for future governments to demand every citizen be, e.g., microchipped, but without that mark being Satanic, demonic, etc., as far as Revelation is concerned.
     
  9. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    True, although I'd be inclined to be wary of something that does require such a mark, especially if it ceases to be optional and if it's a permanent mark. In the past I knew people who refused to let nightclub staff stamp their hand as a re-entry pass even though the ink would wash off in the sink - that seems like tinfoil hat territory.

    In this instance, to put the tinfoil hat back on, it's curious to consider ways this might all pan out for good or evil.
     
  10. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    Depends on who's side you are on!
     
  11. teddyv

    teddyv The horse is in the barn. Staff Member

    I can't help thinking that this whole event has had tremendous value in being a test case for a potentially far more virulent strain of virus or bacteria.
     
  12. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    If we get something that is actually universally dangerous I shudder to think what the government response would be like. I was just reading over some statistics showing deaths and COVID-related deaths from the UK and it looks like for the under-65s this virus really isn't much of a threat at all.

    On a more positive note, a friend's uncle was hospitalised with the virus and given "1-2 hours to live" with a 0% chance of survival. That was a couple of weeks ago. This weekend he was home - weak but very much alive.
     
  13. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    Agent provocateur...

    Just a dry run to see if the U.S. steeple have final decided to,go all in for womb to the tomb nanny state.

    Just feed me and make me feel safe if I am or not. Freedom is so overrated, right?
     
  14. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    Interesting. At 67 years of age, brutish nature might designate an individual expendible, but having lived long enough to become enmeshed with so many lives the opposite is often actually true.
    Nature is clever but insane and must be overrulled.
    Under man's limited yet vaunted authority, there are no expendables, and no demographic is of more value than another. Where recources exist but are limited, the discrepency can be traced to brutish man.
     
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  15. teddyv

    teddyv The horse is in the barn. Staff Member

    Well if you are just going to be pessimistic....
     
  16. Hugo Clanton

    Hugo Clanton Member

    It's natural to be skeptical of government, But, the thing here is this diseases is not yet curable. Only way to counter is preventing infection. And don't forget we live in hysterical times. Reaction to every event is blown out of proportion by opportunist politicians & activists, Sensationalist media and hysterically crazy Social media.

    Even if you count this out as harmless, You can see this as a dress rehearsal for something more dangerous. We will have procedures and protocols ready. Bureaucratic systems in place. We will be battle ready.
     
  17. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    Except we probably won't, "lessons will be learned" but we still won't have anything ready in time. Because being ready costs money with no immediately apparent benefit, and there isn't enough money because we're so used to deficit spending.
     
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  18. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    The words "lessons will be learned" and "government" never seem to go hand in hand.
    Hopefully, more individuals will be the learners of the lessons and will be prepared in the future. Good stewardship is often its own reward.
     
  19. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    The government usually learns the same lessons from every fiasco. They need more money, they need more public sector leeches workers who don't do anything useful. Along the way they usually manage to get rid of some of the public sector workers who actually do useful things. Then the next disaster strikes and turns into another fiasco, at which point the same lessons are learned.

    Those that can certainly should. It's easy to see why people don't, when governments look to grab what they can at every opportunity and hand out free money to those that didn't prepare. The way the shutdown disproportionately hurts small businesses it's hard to be optimistic - the mom-and-pop stores go under so the only place left to work is Walmart, that well known bastion of looking after staff, treating and paying them well.
     
  20. teddyv

    teddyv The horse is in the barn. Staff Member

    You two are soooo cynical.
     
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