Mark of the Beast

Discussion in 'Eschatology' started by The Parson, Dec 15, 2018.

  1. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    The requirement that one event occurs before another event doesn't inherently dictate a time period between them. I need to shovel snow from my driveway before I can take the car out, but the fact I just finished shoveling the snow doesn't mean I must take the car out immediately.
     
  2. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    No intervening events required that I know of.

    There are more Christians living on the earth at this moment that combined for all the years prior to 1950.

    Perhaps Christ is delaying his return so that we will have more brothers and sisters to spend eternity with.
     
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  3. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    Right, but they still hold power over me. Authority over me. Even if they “serve” me, one of the “people.”
     
  4. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    The President of the United States has absolutely no authority over you or any other citizen.
     
  5. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    So who does? I’m free to do what I want with no consequences?
     
  6. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    The Constitution of the United States, and the laws properly promulgated by Congress and the several states, limit your rights to some degree, as agreed by your elected officials in compliance with the federal and state constitutions. Some of those laws have monetary and/or liberty consequences if violated. The law enforcement agencies of the federal and state governments enforce the laws that the people have enacted. The law has authority over you; no person or office does.
     
  7. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    Alright. Fair enough.
     
  8. hisleast

    hisleast FISHBEAT!

    For the next 24 months at least.
     
  9. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    Yeah, what you said.
     
  10. The Parson

    The Parson Your friendly neighborhood parson Staff Member

    Well OK, this reminds me very little of the OP. But good to see the heightened conversation.
     
  11. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    I see nothing in the text to suggest that bearers of the mark are redeemable.
    As a futurist, i take the scanario literally, and
    do not interpret it to be the impardonable sin.
     
  12. TrustGzus

    TrustGzus What does this button do? Staff Member

    Am I misunderstanding you?

    Your first line sounds like they can’t be saved. Your last line sounds like they can.
     
  13. IMINXTC

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    Two different topics in the text: The unforgivable sin and the mark of the beast.
    3 distinct requirements for the latter: The mark, the number or the name of the beast.
    In the context of Revelation, a specific group of people at a specific place in history, involving a specific person, or figure, the beast.
    To receive the mark is to be identified with that particular person, who is subject to the wrath of God.
    To be identified with that rebel, is, if I get the drift of the text correctly, to be sealed. To be sealed, as such, is having pledged allegiance to the beast, never to seek or desire salvation in Christ.
    Do not see any such turning to Christ, for those sealed with the mark, in the text - no salvation and a unique announcement of judgement.
     
  14. Chuckz

    Chuckz Member

    Revelation 14:9-10 is clear. A rule of biblical interpretation is to interpret the Bible from the clear verses and not change what God's words say otherwise we make nonsense out of what God says.

    Taking the mark of the beast is blasphemy of the Holy spirit which will not be forgiven. You can't take a name of blasphemy and all it represents...you can't be anathema and in the faith.

    If you study Revelation and the end times, there are many verses that show man does not repent which is why they are being punished.
     
  15. Cloudwalker

    Cloudwalker The genuine, original, one and only Cloudwalker Staff Member

    Thought this would be the place to put this comment. Lately I have found some people equating The Mark of the Beast with vaccinations.
     
  16. Athanasius

    Athanasius Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

    Some people are stupid. And I mean that.
     
  17. teddyv

    teddyv The horse is in the barn. Staff Member

    Just yesterday someone openly wondered if CERN's logo was a 666. And they have a dreaded statue of Shiva.
     
  18. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    Well, clearly…
     
  19. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    I thought everybody knew Hillary Clinton was the antichrist.
     
  20. Athanasius

    Athanasius Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

    Well, let me tell you about that new UN statue...
     

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