https://www.google.com/amp/www.chic...-willow-creek-resigns-20180410-story,amp.html Hybels has been cleared, but damage done. Poor decisions made, etc.
When a woman accuses a man he is behind in score with 0-10, if the allegations don't hold he still loses with 0-5.
The pendulum has certainly swung. Less than 40 years ago, the women would have been completely ignored or blamed.
I've known pastors who lived in such a way that accusations would be all but impossible. And I've known a few whose actions invited constant suspicion. And a few more who were very circumspect yet sadly engrossed in not only sin but depravity. Familiar with two churches totally destroyed by such conduct.
I was able to confront my abuser a year after the fact, when they were again somehow miraculously my supervisor. Sudden fear. Ya think he didn't wonder everyday I worked for him if I wouldn't ruin his life? Precious.
I am not unlike so many women out there--I was an adult. I could make changes to protect myself and have. For a child, it (sexual abuse or assault) is incomprehensible.
Sorry if I sound harsh, but when it comes to child molesting, I don't think there should be prison time. Castration and a tattoo on the forehead.
I remember when you were a mod at BF and I mentioned castration of pedophiles I was reprimanded by you. Now I see you are even more harsh, the tattoo thingy I don't think castration is harsh, the recidivate is extremely high. The guy that got caught in our church (in 2000) never changed, he is now in a prison in Thailand for the same crimes. Never showed any remorse for the damage he has done.
When I was a mod at BF, I was sorta restricted with being controversial. Tried to keep everything toned down. Don't remember exactly what you're referencing, but I'm sure it was meant to prevent the hotheads from going off the deep end. I don't have those restrictions here.
Of course such measures are controversial (even here I suppose) and the reprimand was no big deal, even justified. It's was just too funny not mention it after you posted what you posted yesterday
Reading the article, it sounds like he was innocent of the accusations, but I actually don’t respect the guy. Why? Because he stepped down from his job despite the fact he’s innocent. He is a coward, in my opinion. Innocent people don’t need to step down from a role of leadership because some people don’t like them due to false accusations. He cares more about dealing with the flack he’ll get from some people who still think he’s guilty than he is about doing the right thing. He can claim he’s stepping down because of the “distraction” of the controversy all he wants, but it REALLY boils down to him being too scared of dealing with his detractors. I also don’t respect him because, like a wimp, he APOLOGIZED for reacting angrily to the false accusations against him. Being angry that FALSE accusations are leveled against you, especially when those false accusations can RUIN you in all kinds of ways, is a pretty NORMAL reaction. There’s NO need to apologize for being angry that people are, for whatever reason, trying to destroy you.
And look what's happening on college campuses now. One night stand? Race to the Title 9 office the next day.
I remember at least a decade ago (and maybe longer) there was a whole load of hoo-hah about a woman's rights where consent was concerned. It was pretty much agreed that a woman has the right to withhold consent and indeed to withdraw consent even during the act. The trouble is that even that it seemed a woman who woke up regretting the night before wanted the freedom to retrospectively withdraw consent, turning a consensual night into an act of rape. And of course given it's not the sort of thing that tends to have witnesses present it turns into little more than "he said, she said". A detailed physical examination may look for internal injuries consistent with being forced but of course if the allegations aren't forthcoming for a couple of months or more any evidence that may have existed will no longer exist, rendering it all but impossible to do anything except decide who is more credible. I remember a case of a student at Oxford University referring himself to the police as a rape suspect because of an allegation made against him by a female student. From what I recall the university wanted to deal with it internally and expel him (based on nothing more than an allegation) and he refused to accept it. It was extremely unusual for a man to present himself to the police as a rape suspect and demand the allegation be treated with the severity it warranted and a formal criminal investigation opened. In the end he was cleared.
Certainly these women who claim they have been raped must all by lying! Thousands of rape kits untested....a bunch of lying women! No wonder they were not tested! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ee-on-what-to-do-next/?utm_term=.447e2eb05fff
A woman feeling regret for having CONSENSUAL sex (guy really wasn’t all that good in bed, guy was a “nerd” or somehow unpopular and she thinks it will ruin her reputation, he didn’t call her the next day like he promised to, he didn’t want to cuddle afterwards, he was the current boyfriend of her friend and she doesn’t want her friend to think she’s a tramp, etc.) is NOT rape and anybody (male or female) who thinks it is...they are straight up stupid. Not merely mistaken. Stupid.
You're kicking at an open door if you tell me its a tragedy that municipal governments have been shlubs on the rape kits. But the kangaroo courts of Title 9, the double standard on drunkenness, and the expansion of the scope of assault has only served to magnify the problem. Number of men reporting rape is skyrocketing because they're using it as a "first strike" against a regret assault.