Satan: How are we to view him?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by devilslayer365, Mar 24, 2018.

  1. TomH

    TomH Well-Known Member

    Hmm, it's been so long ago, I can't remember the last time I saw a mean spirited person.
     
  2. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL. Staff Member

    Key word: "Claim"
     
  3. Athanasius

    Athanasius Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

    Pure evil - that's an interesting question. But yes, why wouldn't we respect others?
     
  4. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    Yes, pure evil. Are you aware of good in Satan? The Bible doesn't indicate any.
     
  5. TomH

    TomH Well-Known Member

    Do you realize that if you look for evil, you'll never find Satan?
     
  6. Athanasius

    Athanasius Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

    The Bible clearly states that no one is good but God alone. Are we pure evil too?
     
  7. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    And why is that?
     
  8. TrustGzus

    TrustGzus What does this button do? Staff Member

    Matthew 7:12. Treat others as you would like to be treated. How they treat me isn’t relevant. I have my orders from Christ on how to treat them.

    Treat Satan with the respect Michael did. He’s more powerful than I. He’s more intelligent than I. The LORD will deal with him.
     
  9. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    And what does “respect” for Satan look like, EXACTLY? Never say a negative thing about him? Doesn’t scripture do that, though? Like, all over the place? So, when we talk to new Christians to comfort and encourage them about trials they’re going through, which may be from the Devil, and we remind them from scripture that Satan is a beaten foe and they can overcome him, through God, of course, is that being “disrespectful” to him? Say we go through some spiritual battle the Devil puts us through. When we rejoice that we come out victorious is that being “disrespectful” to Satan because our victory automatically implies something negative about Satan, namely, that he is a loser? Isn’t our rejoicing rubbing it in Satan’s face and being “disrespectful” to him? Does that then mean we shouldn’t be happy when Satan fails? I mean, I just would like to know how far we are to take “respect for Satan.”
     
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  10. TomH

    TomH Well-Known Member

    He deals with your ego. Flattery and temptations of fame and fortune.
    He'll offer you all the things that will make you think, wish and feel good.
    What do you think evil looks like? Is it something that threatens you?
     
  11. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    Depends on who you ask. According to Calvinists, we are. I say we’re a mixture of both.
     
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2018
  12. Athanasius

    Athanasius Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

    Another question: is it possible that viewing Satan as pure evil is another satanic deploy? (If Satan was pure evil, would that not make satan the opposite equal to God?)
     
  13. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    If you don’t believe that Satan is pure evil (yes, he was created “good” by God, but he allowed himself to become sinful), then what is he?
     
  14. Athanasius

    Athanasius Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

    What are you?
     
  15. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    A mess? :p pi-in-face
     
  16. Athanasius

    Athanasius Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

    I think Satan is capable of an evil that extends beyond the sort we are; evil in a vein analogous to the rebellion, rejection, hate, etc., a human would display for God. But pure evil? Satan isn't capable of changing his ontology, so if he is in-fact angelic in origin, he still bears the marks of his angelic origins. Maybe he would like to be considered pure evil and that's why the world conceives of him as they do: the opposite of God; evil to God's good, God's equal; a horned monstrosity; the hell-born god, etc. It's nonsense, lest I be accused of showing him sympathy.
     
  17. TomH

    TomH Well-Known Member

    Nothing is pure except God.
    Satan is a mixed bag of tricks using anything that can be advantageous.
     
  18. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    I would NEVER consider Satan to be “God’s equal” in any fashion. He is pretty opposite in nature to God, though.
     
  19. פNIʞƎƎS

    פNIʞƎƎS Connoisseur of Memes Staff Member

    Is it something you've found here on this forum? Was it me?
     
  20. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    Honestly, it’s not particularly this forum. Yes, I’ve butted heads with various people about various things, but, in general, I think people here are decent folks. Nah, it’s just a generality I’ve observed. Experienced it personally with some people I know in the real world. Just petty fighting and prideful behavior. Also the way I’ve seen some Christians interact with each other online in their responses to an article or a blog and things get controversial and there’s disagreement and the “you’re not a real Christian because of such and such” garbage starts flying back and forth. It’s just obnoxious. I don’t think Christians have to agree on every single little thing in order for all involved to be actual Christians. There’s really no need for prideful bickering that so and so really isn’t a Christian because they don’t agree with my view on such and such matter.
     
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2018

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