Faith

Understood. And that works for posts, blogs, uploads etc. You can wipe it all out with a click of a "button." But PM's are a separate function with most software aren't they? That's the way I understand it.

 

That a very good thing then. Good choice.

 

Yep and he was one of the nicest fellas. Still is. I was kind of sad when he left BF even though at the time we hadn't interacted much.

I don't remember modding PMs unless they were reported. I touched the admin panel sometimes to hit someone with a ban stick when they deserved it.

Brian, our PM concerns go above and beyond dealing with trolls, spam and harassment. Please believe that. We're not that petty nor that ignorant, and those of us who chose to walk away for good have sound reasons to do so. It's an individual decision, obviously. I'm happy that some of us happily post in both places. I just have zero desire to go back.

 

I think it's a good thing to say that I personally never have been treated unfair by the leadership and that I found Brian an excellent moderator in public. Have seen him apologize in public several times, a rare quality that hasn't undermined the authority given to him one bit, on the contrary I would say.

 

I agree completely. I had to think about what Dani was saying for a bit and then I remembered..yeah. I remember what happened Dani. No idea how I forgot because I was discussing it not too long ago with someone else. Point well taken and I don't blame you one bit.

I was only looking at it from the perspective I mentioned because that's...well, those were the only reasons I would do anything with them.

Thanks for the nice words guy's. I tried my best but sometimes I did have to be the "bad guy" because I agreed to enforce the rules and gave my word. My word means a lot to me.
But when I'm in the wrong I readily admit it. To do otherwise would be a sin eh?

 

I just find it difficult to be branded "disloyal" simply for ... all intents and purposes ... inviting another believer to another form of fellowship. What's so bad about that? I don't understand. We're all adults and capable of functioning in more than one social circle.

We chose to invite a few people to another virtual setting because we felt we could fellowship a bit differently in a smaller setting that would allow us to get to know each other better and have deeper discussions about certain subjects without the usual suspects always interfering. Which is difficult to accomplish in a big forum. Which is difficult to do in a big church. Which is why large churches have home groups. So, either create alternate forum settings that allow people to branch off a bit ... or let them go someplace else for that.

Unless of course you're looking for numbers so you can get advertising dollars ... which is exactly what happened. There's zero reason to be worried about numbers on a social internet forum unless there's money involved. I understand these forum platforms don't run on air, but there are better ways to procure income than punishing people for inviting people to other places they may actually like better ... or not. That's a bit over-the-top controlling for my personal taste. Because I'm an actual adult and can make my own decisions.

We were told we were creating division. Usually when people who create division break off, that division follows them around because they're the cause of it. So where is it? Not here. And we've been hanging out in our small circle longer than on BF even, so it would have shown itself by now.

I remember you as an upstanding mod and decent human being, as far as I can tell (which is the highest compliment I can give anybody), and I'm glad you're here.

Having said that ... I understand BF started out smaller and was able to afford more fellowship because of that, and unfortunately when you grow a lot, that fellowship gets lost because you can't truly connect with hundreds of people. So BF is going to have to be for those who want to just have some casual discussions about subjects, regardless of with whom. Those who actually want to connect a bit more with actual people (insofar as that's possible in a forum setting to begin with), are going to have to find other ways in a smaller setting like this one. I know Tim wants us to grow a bit, but I do hope that we don't grow too much, and if that makes me a selfish jerk then ... oh well.

Understand I'm not bitter or angry and I have zero regrets; quite the opposite, actually. BF has afforded me to "meet" some really amazing people who I'm happy to know and thankful to have in my life. It even gave me a "big sister" I didn't know I needed (miss you, V). It's afforded me some very interesting and fun experiences I wouldn't have otherwise had. It's prepared me for modding other places (such as a local Facebook group that helps people find employment). It has most certainly helped me grow spiritually and learn a ton of Bible stuff I didn't know and be exposed to theological things that have enriched my life tremendously, along with some of the kookier stuff that I was very naive about but I guess needed to become aware of ("serpent seed theory", anyone?). For all that I'm beyond thankful. The rest of it ... whatever. Every time you're dealing with actual people there's going to be stuff you're not going to like and that may even be painful. That's life though, honestly.

 

I'm really uncomfortable discussing BF here because I was not only on the team I've been a member there since 2007... I think. I'll have to check on that. And I'm not going to stop being a member there unless they coffee or ban me. Me being me I doubt that would ever happen but you never know because stranger things have happened.

I'll just say that I agree with you and have said/argued much the same thing. And that's all I'll say about it or BF from now on. If anyone wants to reply please do not be offended if I keep my silence.

I'm not here to talk about that forum I'm here to fellowship with some people that I missed and simply because, as I already said , I really like the fact that this forum has a different culture. I burned myself out with the mod gig by doing and caring far more than I probably should have.

If I have to deal with BF stuff here there's no point in my being here. Seriously. You guy's can talk about it all you want of course I'll just not be responding to- and most likely won't even bother reading- any more posts about it.

I loved you then and I love you now Dani so please don't take that the wrong way. You get nothing but respect from me. Thank you very much for the kind words. They mean a lot.

 

It's fine. I have this emotional need to set records straight and also talk things to death until I've expressed ALL. MY. FEELINGS.

It's nothing to do with you.

You can just do what my husband does and develop a blank stare and either nod or walk off. I won't even be offended.

 

I'm 50 and have been in a couple of loooong term relationships. So yea, I've got that act like I'm listening and grunting once in a while thing down pat.