The attack on Christmas

Discussion in 'Holy Rants' started by MommaJenny, Jul 16, 2017.

  1. MommaJenny

    MommaJenny Member

    I know some people who say there is no attack on Christmas and Christians are free to celebrate the holiday and, yes, we are free to celebrate, but I still get annoyed when I hear such-and-such town is now calling it a holiday tree or you have to say "Seasons Greetings" instead of "Merry Christmas." Then you have the schools that aren't even decorating for it because a Muslim goes there and got their knickers bunched over it. At the rate these things snowball, I really hate to think about where we're going to be on this subject in ten years.
  2. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL.

    I've decided not to let my faith be defined by cultural norms from the past, but instead, by the fruit of the spirit, which are not subject to culture, wherever I am in time or the world.
  3. DaniH

    DaniH You're probably fine.

    I think the whole "holiday" thing is all good and well. However, when it comes to items that are clearly used for Christmas specifically and exclusively, then they oughta be named such.

    There's no "war on Christmas", but for some reason certain folk in the retail world have decided that it's somehow a dirty word. Which I can't understand for the life of me. Go off the rails much?

    I think in 10 years the overly offended will have moved on to something else and we can have Christmas again/still without anybody caring much about it.
  4. פNIʞƎƎS

    פNIʞƎƎS Connoisseur of Memes Staff Member

    "Overly offended". Well said.
  5. BrianW

    BrianW Active Member

    We have atheists and the like that are waging a war on Christianity all year round. Any crosses, bibles, anything with a bit of Scripture on it is seen as an affront to them and they demand they be eradicated in government buildings, courts, schools, any and all public places and on and on.

    So of course there's an attack on Christmas. What amazes me is that even though the majority of people in America still claim to believe in God they let these people override and oppress them. It's not like places in the Middle East and Africa where they will kill whole families because one person converted to Christ and real persecution happens but it's still disconcerting.
  6. פNIʞƎƎS

    פNIʞƎƎS Connoisseur of Memes Staff Member

    I always wonder why people get so offended by something they believe to not be real. No one seems to have issues with the tooth fairy.
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  7. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    I'll tell you why. Atheists don't feel judged by the tooth fairy. They feel heavily condemned by Christianity, and rightly so, because of much of the immorality they embrace that explicitly goes against the Bible. Which is why they fight so hard against anything to do with Christianity. They love the darkness and the light is their enemy...
  8. פNIʞƎƎS

    פNIʞƎƎS Connoisseur of Memes Staff Member

    But if they don't believe in God, why would immorality even be an issue. If the Bible isn't real, then no condemnation exists. Wouldn't that be the train of logic?
  9. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    Not really. They SAY they don't believe in God. I think deep down they struggle with thinking there really may be a God, and they just don't like His sense of morality because it clashes with what they want to do. And, like I said, they therefore typically resist Christianity with such fierceness. It's seldom with a mere shrug or quiet rolling of the eyes. It's often very aggressive, expressive, animated, and emotional.
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  10. MommaJenny

    MommaJenny Member

    I agree with most of this. Personally, I don't think too many of them are having an inner struggle about whether or not God really exists, but I do believe they have a vehement distaste for His moral code. They don't like that we follow a whopping ten whole commandments to follow and just about the only one they agree with is murder being frowned upon. That's just the tip of the iceberg, though. I also agree that it never seems to be as simple as disagreeing and leaving it at that. They can get ferocious and downright hateful about our "stupidity."
  11. Scooby_Snax

    Scooby_Snax Rut-Roh

    From what I understand, "The War on Christmas" started with Bill O'Reilly and Fox News (over ten years ago) and continues today through others aligned with the same thought patterns that were ingrained from the news outlet as a man made Christmas tradition.
  12. TrustGzus

    TrustGzus Don't make me hangry Staff Member

  13. DaniH

    DaniH You're probably fine.

    News outlets thrive off of creating artificial "culture wars" because it gets people riled up and brings ratings.

    We've never had our family Christmas disturbed or even slightly inconvenienced by anything or anyone. Not once, ever. We've always been free to do exactly as we've pleased, and have had a great time. What happens out in the marketplace has nothing to do with anything, and doesn't stop us from celebrating as we wish. People need to calm down. There's more important stuff to throw our religious hat in the ring over, such as human trafficking, child pornography, and other actually evil things, instead of this trumped up stuff that's got not nothing to do with anything.

    But yanno, whatever Starbucks does with their cups is now considered "warfare" or whatever. Jeez. Elsewhere in the world, churches are blown up by suicide bombers, and Christians imprisoned and tortured, and we have the gall to cry "persecution" over every little thing. Unbelievable.
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  14. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    But, but, but, but, how can I possibly enjoy a Christmas knowing that someone else, somewhere else, might be celebrating Kwanzaa instead? Can't we just pass a law requiring people to say "Happy Christmas" even if they prefer to mark a different festive occasion? You know, to save causing offence to a brother. Or something like that.
  15. devilslayer365

    devilslayer365 Wazzup?!

    I tend not to care what the unbelieving world thinks about Christmas, Christianity, God, or me for being involved with any of it. Honestly, their opinions are not worth exerting the mental energy that is required to actually care. They can live their lives however they want and I’ll do the same...
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