Discussion in 'Bible Chat' started by TrustGzus, Aug 24, 2017.
Are you serious? You remind me of a famous Bill Clinton quote.
Yeah, I know what you’re referring to. LOL! Blessed 15 does raise a good point, though. What was the context of the words Paul was indicating believers shoudn’t be arguing over? I mean, it’s a bit vague.
Paul made up the word "logomachein".... literally "word fight"
His point in the context of the passage was a warning to Timothy... don't fight the tar babies of heretics.... disputes over words with idiots are useless.
This might give you a little insight. Although Rabbi already did a good job explaining.
From the ESV Study Bible Notes:
2 Tim. 2:14–3:9 Dealing with False Teachers. These verses divide into two sections. In 2:14–26 Paul introduces the false teaching (v. 16) and explains how Timothy should respond to it and be different from the false teachers. In 3:1–9 he describes the false teachers more extensively. Having exhorted Timothy to steadfast endurance, Paul now begins to address the problem directly.
2 Tim. 2:14–26 Timothy in Contrast to the False Teachers. Paul contrasts Timothy and the false teachers: vv. 14–19 contrast Timothy’s faithful ministry with the worthless ministry of the opponents; vv. 20–21 provide an illustration; in vv. 22–26 Paul exhorts Timothy not to be drawn into sinful desire and needless controversy, and counsels him on how to handle his opponents.
2 Tim. 2:14 Remind them. Thus far in the letter Timothy has been the primary object of the exhortations and the one who is to “remember” (v. 8). Here Paul shifts to Timothy’s role in reminding the congregation. not to quarrel about words. Paul is clearly willing to argue when the gospel is at stake—he opposed Peter to his face (Gal. 2:11). What is prohibited here is meaningless argument. does no good. The concern here, as in 1 Timothy, is a teaching that has no positive, practical impact on its adherents (see 2 Tim. 2:16–17).
It was a thread "somewhere else" where I asked if there was anything "true" that was also not written in the Bible. It was pages of desperate mental gymnastics in order to preserve a perverse and limited understandings of the words "objective" and "true".
It does indeed take some serious mental crainioretal transposition to state that there is no truth unless it is in Scripture.
I think this might be the one you were referring to.
Post no. 15 in Hat on bread is brilliant....
In that thread...
I had to stop reading that thread.
I know what you mean.
5 brilliant people, all are here now
(Runs to see which 5 he's referring to)
Wow. The question Hisleast was asking wasn’t hard. Could have stopped after Jeremy said “no” in post #2. People were confusing all sorts of categories.
Just give it to Jesus.
Why ruin a useless discussion just because someone answered wisely early.
Then you would miss the opportunity to impress others with your pseudo spirituality
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