Free-Form Musings...I'll go first.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by IMINXTC, May 15, 2017.


    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    Limited time and smart-phone disfunctionality, I'll expand on this particular contemplation in do-able slices.

    Feel free to likewise share, whatever the topic, or to respond to this and others.

    My subject involves the absolute attributes and nature of God, specifically where it concerns His role as creator - fascinating when one attempts to ponder the timelessness of God and the purpose of creation, which involves time.

    Shall be back:D
  2. The Parson

    The Parson Your friendly neighborhood parson Staff Member

    Ah, the time bandit has finally landed in our era.
    Do you think that time existed the way we perceive it before the fall of man?

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    Most interesting question. I believe a system-wide change in creation upon tbe fall includes time, as the clock of entropy began ticking at that point. But the times and seasons were measured before that.
  4. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL.

    Prior to the fall, why would we believe that the astronomical universe behaved any differently?
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  5. The Parson

    The Parson Your friendly neighborhood parson Staff Member

    Preception is what I mentoned.

    IMINXTC Time Bandit

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  7. teddyv

    teddyv The horse is in the barn. Staff Member

    Time is a fundamental component of the physical universe.
    Humans don't have a truly innate linear sense of time. Is that what you are thinking of? The actual physical property of time has not changed since a fraction of a second after the big bang.
  8. The Parson

    The Parson Your friendly neighborhood parson Staff Member

    So does time seem to pass as slow to you now, as it did when you were very young Teddy?
  9. hisleast

    hisleast FISHBEAT!

    Pre-supposing 'fall of man' narrative is true...
    Perception of time should be radically different between someone who's effectively immortal, and someone who is not. Even worse, the newly mortal mortal has no idea how long mortality lasts, or how easy it's extinguished. Suddenly most of time is consumed with keeping one's body alive.
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  10. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL.

    Only during social studies class.
    Not during recess.
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    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    Okay. Been pondering this seemingly forever (no pun intended) and will try to convey my thoughts (or whatever they are) in piecemeal fashion.

    Not trying to establish any particular doctrine or scientific theory, per se ( unless by accident)... just musings based upon already established truths, using scripture, particularly God being eternal, omniscient and, most pertinent to my ramblings, a creator.

    Next post, I will try to focus, first, on what it means for God to be eternal. Nothing new, but a first step towards conveying a not-necessarily unique thought.

    This, I get, while watching pelicans cruise the offshore breezes in formation:D

    Free- form musings or contemplations.

    Feel free:cool:
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    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    While never presuming to know the mind of God and unable to grasp infinity or eternity in any comprehensive way, it seems - for my generation at least - we grew up satisfied with the teaching that God, having inhabited eternity, with no beginning, for an immeasurable period, at one point decided to create angels, the universe and man.

    By most understanding, of course, the realm of eternity which God inhabits cannot be depicted in such linear, measurable terms, or understood as event "A" taking place at a certain point and "B" at another - time does not exist in the eternal state.

    Very elementary, basic stuff which numbsculls such as myself find most enthralling.

    I am far from presenting my entire thought here, so kindly don't rush to conclude, but feel welcome to comment or contribute.

    Doing this with one finger at this point in time (oops, there I go again:(
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    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    So, having touched upon God's eternal existence, in itself a difficult reality to apprehend, but thrilling, we are easily reminded that He is absolute in all His attributes, which means that nothing He does is less than absolute in it's rightness, as He is perfect in all His ways, and He is good.

    God is morally excellent, and does only good (Gen. 1:31; Deut. 8:16; Psa. 107:8; 118:1; Nahum 1:7; Mark 10:18; Rom. 8:28)

    In light of this, it can be aptly stated that absolute rightness demanded the creation of man, including each unique individual, or more appropriately, each person, because God could not have motives that are anything less than what absolute perfection demands.

    (Some hold to a random creation for individual persons, based on chance; I don't - no accidents, no uncertainty, no probability).

    So what turns out to be "In the beginning" for man, is in reality an action of the highest, or infinitely right, purpose, which emanates from Most High God, and is, rather than initiated at some point, eternal in essence, though our existence began with time.

    A purpose of the highest absolute, which always is, and ultimately, intimately, centered on Christ.

    Work in progress... Just beginning.. (Doh!!!:confused:)
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    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    As one scientist recently explained, "The actual existence of past, present, and future is required by Einstein's theory of relativity. All space and time form a four- dimensional continuum that simply exists; the theory does not permit time to be treated as a dimension in which the future is open or incomplete."


    "From a Christian point of view, it is reasonable to conclude that the temporal and the spatial extent of our universe were created together, and thus the entire four-dimensional structure resides before it's Creator in an eternal present. Thus our modern scientific understanding of the nature of time fits quite well with the Christian tradition that God has knowledge of all time, past, present, and future: "Before Abraham was, I am."

    (Michael J. Kane, Ph. D., "Letters," Christianity Today, July 9, 2009, 9.)
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    IMINXTC Time Bandit

    At any rate, it must be that the average believer - most believers, in fact - barely even begin to grasp what they have, or more appropriately, who they are, in Christ, having been redeemed, not corporately, but as unique individuals, foremost in the infinite mind of God, with eternal purpose, and placed within the body of Christ.

    To comprehend by faith these truths while on this side of the river, in the midst of trials and the demands of earthly existence...

    Back to zoom zoom land for now. Will continue...
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  16. Kierkegaard

    Kierkegaard Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

    A world obsessed with ancient power - as long as it's not God.
    A world obsessed with before the universe - as long as it's not God.
    A world obsessed with alien life; other intelligence - as long as it's not God.
    A world obsessed with myth, what's if, something more - as long as it's not God.
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    IMINXTC Time Bandit


    According to the head of MIT’s Alcator C-Mod tokamak fusion project Earl Marmar, we may not have to wait long. Speaking to Inverse, Marmar said that we could potentially have nuclear fusion powering electric grids by the 2030s — that is, if we’re dedicated to continued research. “I think fusion energy on the grid by 2030 is certainly within reach by this point,” Marmar said. “2030 is probably aggressive, but I don’t think it’s wildly out of range.” This would be a timetable similar to what a Canadian collective is currently working towards.

    At MIT, the focus has been to increase the strength of the magnetic field. While their reactor is currently shut down, Marmar and his team have been looking into high temperature superconductive magnets. High temperature superconductive magnets can work at temperatures of about 100 degrees warmer than the electromagnets typically used on tokamaks, which have to be super-cooled to -239 degrees Celsius to work. This saves a lot of energy, and these magnets offer stronger magnetic fields. “We think that opens a new pathway for more efficient utilization of the magnetic field, which could be a faster and more economical way to get fusion energy actually on the grid,” says Marmar.

    Interesting footnote:

    California is producing so much green energy that it is forced to pay other states like Arizona to take its excess solar-generated electricity.
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  18. Kierkegaard

    Kierkegaard Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

  19. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL.

    The earth already has a working fusion reactor.

    We are parked one AU from it, and have been for some time now...

    IMINXTC Time Bandit


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