Faith

Discussion in 'Bible Chat' started by ProDeo, Jun 6, 2017.

  1. The Parson

    The Parson Your friendly neighborhood parson Staff Member

    Isn't Brent still the owner and main admin?
     
  2. teddyv

    teddyv The horse is in the barn. Staff Member

    Brent is bdh right? If so, I rarely see him on the open board.
     
  3. The Parson

    The Parson Your friendly neighborhood parson Staff Member

    Yep, that's him Teddy. From my encounters, he is a fine fellow.
     
  4. BrianW

    BrianW Active Member

    Brent is a very fine fellow indeed but he's in very bad shape right now as far as his health goes and has been for a while. He could use your prayers guys.
     
  5. The Parson

    The Parson Your friendly neighborhood parson Staff Member

    Yes, aware of the health problems and grateful to pray with you for him.
     
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  6. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    I can't help thinking it's the Pap Idol mentality coming to religion. People want to be a superstar, they want people to know who they are, but don't necessarily understand that the vast majority of people don't get their name in lights (and to be honest the vast majority probably don't even want their name in lights). But now you, too, can be special even if you have no particularly noteworthy skills or features. What's not to like? Especially if you get all the rewards with none of the effort because, you know, you're special and don't have to deal with washing feet and all that yucky stuff. You get to work on a much more spiritual level - instead of washing feet and dealing with the nasty icky day to day reality you can hike up the side of a mountain to break curses off of whole valleys, and that's just for starters. Just wait until you're made an intercessor for your entire state. Don't skip out on your time in the prayer rooms because the whole state is depending on you and, if you prove yourself, maybe you'll be promoted to a global intercessor.

    It's clear the candy coated gospel tastes better than the real gospel, at least in the here and now.

    Having looked at things like the Seven Mountains Mandate and the way the so-called New Apostolic Reformation is growing like a cancer within the church, I seriously wonder whether one of the major players in the Revelation is going to be formed of some incarnation of the hyper-charismatic groups. Key pointers here - great signs and wonders to deceive even the elect (it's hard to see Christians following signs and wonders unless they were at least notionally Godly in origin), battles between the dragon and the saints (some talk from within the NAR does appear to suggest some kind of war foreseen between the "spiritual", i.e. them, and the "non-spiritual", i.e. the rest of us), the whole concept of dominion over the whole earth (with the Seven Mountains Mandate is intended to achieve prior to Christ's return) while Revelation says that the beast will have dominion over the earth, and how the "spirit of antichrist" described in 1Jn4 that denies Jesus is come in the flesh seems to align with Peter's proclamation that "you are the Christ, the son of the living God" (italics mine) from the tendency to push the idea that Jesus is a Christ and that we can have the same Christ anointing.
     
  7. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    Brent is the owner but has handed off "lead admin" duties for some time now. For a time it was ProjectPeter, then threebigrocks. Back in those days there wasn't a specific designation for the lead admin - it was more an understanding that one of the admins was the lead admin.
     
  8. Cloudwalker

    Cloudwalker The genuine, original, one and only Cloudwalker Staff Member

    Praying as well.
    Curious who is lead admin over at BF these days. I could probably find out myself but not really interested enough to go over there and dig. Still visit but not really involved any more.
     
  9. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    Last I saw it was The Rookie. Probably still is, it was just a few days back I scanned down to see if there was a reason to start posting there again.
     
  10. Cloudwalker

    Cloudwalker The genuine, original, one and only Cloudwalker Staff Member

    Thanks. Always got along well with him.
     
  11. Kierkegaard

    Kierkegaard Life is not a problem to be solved Staff Member

    He's not too fond of me. I made some good stinks in C2M
     
  12. DaniH

    DaniH You're probably fine.

    I've functioned as an intercessor for over 2 decades now, and I can attest that saying random words over random places has absolutely nothing to do with it. I don't talk much about what I do because it's between God and I and I don't do it for show.

    Intercession is all about personal identification. So unless you are willing to walk that extra 100 miles of personal involvement and love people in actuality and reality, up close and personal for a prolonged period of time and you're willing to lay down your actual life for those people (like Jesus did) ... you ain't no intercessor. You're a person who says random "spiritual sounding" things while you fancy yourself "declaring the word of the Lord" --- and then afterwards you probably have to make up outrageous stories about how the random things you said (errr ... "declared") resulted in positive changes as if by magic. When the true "magic" of intercession is to apply actual love and putting yourself on the side of people who need freedom, identifying with those people, and being present in their lives, loving them as God does and fighting with and for them right there in the trenches of life through everyday mundane stuff. And by "magic" I mean "hard, frustrating, ego-destroying, crazy-making, but worth-it work". It can be exhausting work to be an intercessor for one person. Being an intercessor for an entire state? That you don't even live in? Get outta here. God complex much? o_O:rolleyes:

    I used to run in those circles, because the "Melbourne renewal" was happening when I moved here, and I didn't know anybody and got invited and went because I was lonely and hurting and thirsty for God, but after some time I realized how flaky it all was, and the pain it was actually causing to people I came to care about, and I disassociated myself with it. It was all hyper-emotionalized manipulative poppycock, and still is. Which I used to be more tolerant of because God would always meet me anyway, but then He always met me anyway regardless of where, and I lost my tolerance of it after a while because of all the nonsense associated with it. I think BF was just the final straw, really. Feh. Smacking you with a fish.

    When you pray, go into your room, shut the door, and speak to your Father who sees in secret. When you fast, anoint your head and wash your face so that your fasting will not be obvious to men, but only to your Father who is unseen.
     
  13. DaniH

    DaniH You're probably fine.

    Wish I could be a fly on the wall just to see those stinks. They were probably a riot. :D
     
  14. DaniH

    DaniH You're probably fine.

    I had posted a call to prayer for Brent via PM here about 3 years ago when I was informed that he was "dying". That person lost touch with Brent's wife and I haven't gotten any updates. Evidently he didn't die ... will pray nonetheless, thanks.

    Regardless of personal feelings ... prayer is always going to happen.
     
  15. BrianW

    BrianW Active Member

    I never heard the word dying just that it was very touch and go there for a while. He had surgery and it didn't go well at all last I heard -and that was some time ago.
     
  16. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    Oh no, you get to be an intercessor for the state where you live. Otherwise how would you know which places to pray for, unless the profits prophets told you in advance?

    Seriously though, there's so much kookiness out there it's a wonder people actually fall for some of it. At the silly hypercharismatic church I went to for a time there was a member who was diagnosed with something nasty (I forget what, but potentially life threatening) and who announced "I believe I am healed but am going to Dr (name) for treatment", thereby announcing he was healed and also not healed at the same time. You know, I don't go and visit a cardiologist because I don't have cardiac issues. I don't see the neurologist because I don't have brain issues (no comments there please pi-in-face). I don't see the oncologist because I don't have cancer. So if you claim you are healed you don't need to see the doctor any more. It's one or the other. But at this particular church the cognitive dissonance was such that people could exist in two diametrically opposed states at once and be just fine with that.
     
  17. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL.

    My favorite thing to do in hypercharismatic churches is to go to the "ministry" or "prayer line" where everyone is playing "slain the the spirit" grand mal seizure and then stand there smiling and refuse to fall down.
     
  18. The Parson

    The Parson Your friendly neighborhood parson Staff Member

    I thought you were supposed to do as the Romans do RK?...
     
  19. tango

    tango ... and you shall live ... Staff Member

    Are there any instances in Scripture of someone falling over backwards when overcome with the Holy Spirit? There seem to be several people who fell on their faces.

    If you really want to mess with them wait for them to start praying and then convulse a bit. They'll assume something is manifesting, at which point you apologise and say your hearing aid is acting up again.
     
  20. RabbiKnife

    RabbiKnife Open the pod bay door, please HAL.

    I wasn't in Rome!
     

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